Some of these immigrants are hired by business owners in the states though the H-2A program which is a program that requires the employer to pay a certain amount of money in order to be guaranteed a worker. The H-2A program was modified in March of 2010 so that the workers would have documentation that they came to the United States to work.
In your oppinion, do you thing that illegal immigrants should be blamed for the United State's failing economy? Should the H-2A program be more selective about the immigrants that are coming to work in the U.S.?
http://www2.highlandstoday.com/content/2010/apr/01/la-does-illegal-immigration-hurt-us-economy/
I do not feel that the illegal immigrants can be blamed for our low economy because they are only trying to build a better life for them selves by doing the jobs that Americans don't want to do. Also even if Americans did want those jobs they wouldn't get them because the people who are hiring the illegal immigrants cant afford to pay Americans minimum wage. So if we didn't have the immigrants doing those jobs our economy would just get worse.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, I do not think that illegal immigrants should be blamed for the United State’s failing economy. The illegal immigrants who come to our country are not taking work away from American workers, they are doing all of the jobs that Americans do not want to do anyways. In the current event article I talked about in class, it is stated illegal immigrants are doing jobs such as picking fruit and landscaping, which are both very low paying jobs. I agree with John, not only do Americans not want to do these jobs, but if they did do the jobs then the employers would have to pay them more than the illegal immigrants. The article “After Alabama Immigration Law, Few Americans Taking Immigrants’ Work,” the author states “many Americans simply don't want the backbreaking, low-paying jobs immigrants are willing to take.” Later in the article, the author explains that unskilled workers make a much smaller profit than a skilled immigrant would. The H-2A program should not be more selective about the immigrants that are coming to work in the United States they should just be very careful that they are not letting in anyone dangerous. The workers that they are letting in now are doing very low level jobs that help keep the economy running because without them there would not be higher level positions for Americans to take.
ReplyDeleteI agree with John and Michaela. I definitely agree with John's point about the immigrants taking the jobs that most Americans would never take. Also the fact about the pay rate; many Americans would not work for as little as the immigrants would. So I do not think that the immigrants should be blamed for the economy. The immigrants work hard to make a living and to achieve their idea of the American Dream. If America is going to let immigrants in to come work here, then there shouldn't be accusation that it is the immigrants fault that our economy is suffering. The people that think immigrants are causing a problem with the economy, they should look to the H-2A program. But, I do not think the program should be selective or more specific about who they let come into the country because it wouldn't be fair. If the United States is going to let immigrants in, then every immigrant should have an equal opportunity, as long as they go through the necessary processes. I think the immigrants are an asset to our economy, not contributors to the bad economy.
ReplyDeleteI think it would be unfair to say that illegal immigrants are the main or sole cause to the current state of the economy, but I think they are a reason. It is true that they are taking jobs away from legal Americans, but I can understand everyone's point about how they are extremely difficult jobs that most Americans, if given the option, would decline. But I think it is unfair that they take preference over legal Americans who are willing to do the work. Illegal immigrants are highly motivated and work for much less, which makes them opportune targets of manipulation by employers. With all of the money that employers are saving, they should engage in the legalization process of the employees.
ReplyDeleteI do not think the illegal immigrants should be blamed for the United States' failing economy. Like Alexis said, they are just trying to make a better life for themselves. It is important that they are able to live out the American Dream too. The illegal immigrants are doing the jobs that the majority of American citizens do not want. If given the opportunity to do these hard jobs, I bet the majority of American citizens would not do them. Going off of what was previously said, some businesses do not have enough money to be hiring American citizens and paying them minimum wage. The illegal immigrants do the work for a much cheaper pay; in this case, they are helping the economy because otherwise nobody would be doing those jobs. I do not think the H-2A program should be more selective about immigrants coming to the US, because, like I said before, everyone should have a chance to live out the American Dream.
ReplyDeleteNO i do not believe that the illegal immagrant should be blamed for the US's ecnomic state. i think that is completeludicris to even assume. Although yes they do cost the country a considerable amount of money for them being here and the legal things to get them here or out. But the Country's debt is by no mwans only one things fault. The country's econmic state is poor, because they're not enough jobs, health care is an issue, debt to oversea countries and so on and so on. yes it is partly because of illegal immmagrants butn ot because of illegal immagrants, but not completely. and shouldnt get all the blame. Also i dont know everything the H-2A's requirments for people coming in thstates but i do believe if there is isnt a criminal check and a Cori check. We dont need anymore crime in our country.but i would certainly like a list of the fallowing requirements to come in to the US
ReplyDeleteI feel that illegals should be blamed for the failing economy because while many Americans do not desire to do the labor illegals are doing, there are people who will do that work to support their families since they are jobless unless they are to take this action. so to better answer the question, i think that tighter border control is one required step in fixing our economy, meaning that if, for example, we are to import workers from foreign nations, security should be tighter to make sure they do not take away from legal citizen opportunities.
ReplyDeleteI don't think illegal immigrants should be blamed for the bad economy. Like others have said they are taking jobs Americans don't want. They are also taking those jobs for less money than Americans which helps small businesses who can't afford minimum wage. Illegal immigrants are only a small part of the economy and there are many other factors that go into our economic problems so to place the blame on them would be unfair. I don't think that there should be any more restrictions on H-2A's because businesses are trying to get immigrants legally, so putting more restrictions on it and making it harder to get would only encourage illegal immigration.
ReplyDeleteI agree with luke, i believe they are some of the blame. I wont put the 100% blame on them. I do understand that they are trying to make their lives better by immigrating to the United States, but they should take the necessary and legal steps to do so. They are taking jobs that could potentially give some Americans jobs to put food on the table for their family. And i do not believe someone who came into this country should have a job. If their doing something illegal, why give them something?
ReplyDeleteI agree with the people who said they shouldn't be blamed. As many people have said they take jobs most Americans would never take, but without them, our economy wouldn't be able to function. There are many more immigrants willing to do those types of jobs than Americans who would, so even if there are people who would take them, they would still need more help. So without the immigrants our economy would fail entirely.
ReplyDeleteNo, I do not believe that immigrants should be blamed on the United States' bad economy. Like many others have already stated before me, the bad economy has many other factors to it besides illegal immigrants taking "our"jobs. A total lack of jobs are available in the U.S in the first place so there is no way we could blame illegal immigrants to or economy. There are also other reasons that contribute to our poor economy. Although illegal immigrants may be scooping up minimum wage jobs, many other Americans would be too proud to do such a job. I think it would be unnecessary for the H-2A program to be more selective in what illegal immigrants are going to be let in because it would be a waste of time. Illegal Immigrants are going to make there way in to the United States no matter what, and they should not be blamed for the bad economy.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Andrea and Kevin in the point that immigrants should not be blamed for the economy. However I do not think that the illegal immigrants should be able to reside or work here in the first place. I feel that if they are coming here to work, they need to have proper documentation. If they have the right documents then they are legal American citizens and no one could blame them for taking anyone else's job. My point is that if we reform the immigration process and just get rid of the H-2A program all together. There is no need for our government to help out people in other countries that are trying to find jobs here without an interest in being a citizen.
ReplyDeleteI don’t believe the illegal immigrants should be blamed for the United States' failing economy! As both Laura and Alexis mentioned, they’re only trying to make a better life for themselves. It’s essential that they’re able to live out the American dream like we can. The illegal immigrants are doing the jobs that the majority of American citizens don’t want to do; American citizens tend to dismiss these type of jobs as options of employment. Like my classmates have said, some businesses simply don’t have enough money to be hiring American citizens and paying them minimum wage. Because the illegal immigrants do the work for a much cheaper pay; they’re basically helping the economy because otherwise nobody would be doing those jobs. I don’t think the program Crystal talked about should be more selective about immigrants coming to the US, because it’s only fair if everyone has the advantage to live up to their American dream.
ReplyDeleteI agree with many people that say that illegal immigrants should not be blamed for the failing economy. With that said,I do feel as though they should take a blame for a part of it. Because illegal immigrants can work under the table for much cheaper than American citizens, they are taking jobs from us. When American citizens do not have jobs, it is very hard to keep up with their debt and they end up spiraling into bankruptcy. With that said, I also think that illegal immigrants are helping the economy. Some companies cannot afford to pay minimum wage to American workers. When illegal immigrants come in and take the jobs for much less money, they are in a sense helping the company to succeed; if those were not taken, the company may fail. All in all, i do not feel as though the program Crystal addressed should be more selective about who they are choosing.
ReplyDeleteNo, I do not believe we should blame the illegal immigrants for the low economy. I agree with everybody else they're just doing the jobs most Americans won't do because they get paid less. The immigrants just want a better life then the one they have before. If the Americans wanted the jobs they would take them and stop complaining, but they're complaining for no reason because I can gurantee you half of the Americans wouldn't take the jobs illegal immigrants have. I don't see how they're the problem for the bad economy.
ReplyDeleteI believe that immigrants are factor in the economic unstabilty that delas with job opportunities but they are not a main factor. Like Marcus said they are just apart of the reason, and like Trevor they are not 100% of the reason why either. Like Andrea said there are other reasons and these other reasons contribute to the fact that there are less jobs available in the first place. I am sure there are jobs that don't squire immigrant workers but lack job spaces. I think that Americans putting the blame on the immirganta are some what ignorant. They forget the fact that there we jobs they could do that would still earn them money but they were looking for more and could not settle for any thing less. They have the chance to work amung the immigrants but chose not to because it's too much work. That is just being lazy. I would rather make some money then be making none.
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ReplyDeleteI think that the illegal immigrants should at least be partially blamed for our failing economy even if it is not their intention to do so. I agree with John that the immigrants are just trying to create a better life for themselves, but in the process they are ruining opportunities for legal citizens. I mostly agree with the other people that stated that illegal immigrants were at fault for our economic problems, but I 100$ agree with Trevor’s’ statement that the immigrants are taking jobs that poor American citizens could be taking in order to put food on their table. Some poor, uneducated Americans rely on those types of jobs to support their family and make it through each day, but the illegal immigrants are taking them. I also think that the H-2A should defiantly be more selective of who they choose for their jobs because their poor decisions are effecting our economy and our unemployment rates. If they are more selective about who comes into our country, we might not end up with so many illegal immigrants. Without the illegal immigrants we would have many more jobs which would give people more of an opportunity to be self-sufficient instead of relying on government funded programs to keep them fed and alive. So much of our government funding go towards helping the poor, but we wouldn’t need to spend so much money if people had their own jobs.
ReplyDeleteIllegal immigrants sound not be blamed for the United States falling economy. Like Alex said they are hurting the economy by not have all of their documentation and taking places in the work force. I feel that people that are citizens or the people in the process of getting their citizen ship are the only ones that should be able to hold a long time job. The H-2A program is just a bad idea, because there are people in this country that need the jobs that are being given to people that live in other countries. This is not fair to the people that live here and are struggling to get a job. With this process the money that these people are making is not staying here like it would if the job was held by someone that lives here.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion I do not feel that illegal immigration can be at blame for the state the economy is in right now. There are often complaints of illegal immigration taking the jobs of American citizens. But that for the most part is not the case illegal immigrants are doing the jobs that average citizens even unemployed do not want to do. Some Americans are too lazy or think they are do good to do the hard labor work that illegal immigrants would do in a second with no complaint. Also business mangers and owners who take in illegal works do not mind because they can pay these people less money than they would have to pay a citizen. The H-2A program who made make it so the illegal immigrants could take work here but they would be taking more money and taking the money that Americans could have. People here should have the first chance at jobs because it is the country that they live in and pay taxes to.
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